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Caleb Williams or Kirk Cousins in 2024? Redraft and dynasty questions answered on today’s fantasy football podcast! What’s the upside for Trey McBride? Are there “injury prone” players? Plus, rankings reactions to the big Nico Collins contract extension! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. — Fantasy Football Podcast for May 30th, 2024.

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Trusting Rookie QBs: Statistical Analysis 03:53

  • Rookie quarterbacks historically have struggled to elevate their wide receivers to elite fantasy production levels.
  • In the past 13 years, only a small percentage of rookie QBs’ top receivers reached notable milestones like 100 receptions or 1,000 yards.

Analyzing Rookie Quarterback Performance 03:53

  • The average performance of a rookie QB’s top receiver includes 69 receptions, 837 yards, and 4.3 touchdowns.
  • While statistically, betting against the success of rookie QBs and their receivers seems prudent, individual cases may still hold promise.
  • Looking at data since 2010, out of 28 rookie quarterbacks drafted in the top 10, only three receivers reached 100 receptions.

Rookie quarterbacks face challenges in boosting their receivers to top-tier fantasy numbers, with historical stats showing modest average performances for rookie QB’s top targets.

  • Notably, only seven out of 30 receivers crossed the 1,000-yard mark in their rookie year.
  • The leading receiver for a rookie quarterback averaged 69 receptions, 837 yards, and 4.3 touchdowns.
  • Generally, betting against rookie quarterbacks in fantasy seems prudent, given the historical numbers.
  • However, for number one overall picks, the stats show a significant uptick in receiver performance, with an average of 82 receptions, 1,011 yards, and four touchdowns.

“But if you take the number one overall picks, which is 10 of the 28 in that sample, which is what we’re talking about with Caleb Williams, it’s a lot more intriguing.”

Rookie Quarterbacks’ Touchdown Production 09:11

  • Historically, rookie quarterbacks have struggled to achieve double-digit touchdown passes, with zero instances in the data sample mentioned.
  • The focus tends to shift towards yardage, which is achievable, though still challenging, for rookie quarterbacks.

Analyzing Rookie Quarterbacks’ Production 08:58

  • Notable exceptions of rookie quarterbacks reaching the 24-touchdown mark include Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, and Daniel Jones.
  • Historically, rookie quarterbacks, even top picks, rarely achieve double-digit touchdown scores, making it a risky bet to rely on high touchdown numbers from them.
  • “Nobody’s ever scored double-digit touchdowns. So your odds of double digits are not there.”

“So nobody’s ever scored double-digit touchdowns.”

Impact of Receiving Core on Rookie Quarterbacks 10:17

  • The focus should be on the yardage gained by rookie quarterbacks, as while few exceed 4,000 passing yards, the real challenge lies in scoring touchdowns.
  • Rookie quarterbacks often find themselves throwing to subpar receivers, affecting their ability to produce high touchdown numbers.
  • The statistics highlight instances where top rookie quarterbacks were heavily reliant on receivers with established careers for successful passing seasons.
  • Notable exceptions include quarterbacks like Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, and Daniel Jones, who have reached the 24-touchdown mark in their rookie seasons, suggesting achieving high touchdown numbers is a rarity.
  • The presence of elite receivers like DJ Moore can significantly impact the rookie quarterback’s performance.
  • “The majority of all these rookie quarterbacks…you’re throwing to garbage receivers more often than not.”

Nobody’s ever scored double-digit touchdowns. So your odds of reaching double digits are not favorable.

Impact of Receivers on Rookie Quarterbacks 10:17

“The majority of all these rookie quarterbacks…you’re throwing to garbage receivers more often than not.”

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  • Rookie quarterbacks often find themselves throwing to subpar receivers, limiting their ability to generate significant passing stats.

Importance of Target Share for Rookie Quarterbacks 11:40

  • The majority of top rookie quarterbacks have historically targeted receivers with limited production histories, impacting their overall pass game effectiveness.
  • Rookie quarterbacks, especially those like Caleb Williams, may need a concentrated target share to boost their chances of reaching high touchdown numbers.
  • Achieving top-tier seasons as a rookie quarterback often hinges on having a strong connection with talented receivers.

The majority of rookie quarterbacks often throw to lesser-known receivers, hindering their potential for high passing numbers.

Importance of Target Share for Rookie Quarterbacks 11:36

  • The dynamic between the quarterback and their receivers, particularly in sharing target opportunities, plays a crucial role in rookie performance.
  • Rookie quarterbacks, especially when paired with top-tier receivers, require a concentrated target share to maximize their passing efficiency.
  • “Maybe DJ Moore maintains his insane target share that he had last year, but you have two true number one wide receivers.”
  • Having a strong receiving core with established players can enhance a rookie quarterback’s chances of delivering exceptional performances.

“Maybe DJ Moore maintains his insane target share…but you have two true number one wide receivers.” Rookie quarterbacks rely on a concentrated target share, especially when paired with top receivers, to achieve optimal passing outcomes.

Nico Collins‘ Contract Extension 16:39

  • Nico Collins signed a three-year, $72 million extension with $32 million guaranteed at signing.

Nico Collins‘ Contract Extension and Dynasty Outlook 16:39

  • This deal indicates a significant commitment from the team to Nico Collins and quarterback CJ Stroud for the upcoming years.
  • Nico Collins signed a lucrative three-year, $72 million extension with $32 million guaranteed, a significant move for both him and the team.

Nico Collins, three-year, $72 million extension, $32 million guaranteed at signing.”

Future Impact on Fantasy Assets 17:26

  • The deal sets Nico up well with CJ Stroud for the future, making him a cornerstone of the offense alongside Tank Dell.
  • The extension of Nico Collins raises questions about the future role of players like Stefon Diggs in the team.
  • Concerns about long-term stability in dynasty leagues are diminished with this contract, potentially making Nico a safer bet than his counterparts.
  • With the potential long-term lock-ins of Tank Dell and Nico, the dynamics of the team could shift towards younger talents like CJ Stroud.
  • The potential for a crowded receiving corps raises questions about target distribution, but Nico’s rapport and reliability make him a strong option moving forward.

Nico Collins, three-year, $72 million extension, $32 million guaranteed at signing.”

Impact of Injury Potential on Rankings 29:42

  • Injury potential plays a role in rankings, but few players are considered injury-prone, as some, like Christian McCaffrey, have shaken that label with consistent play.
  • Players like Christian Watson may raise concerns due to repeated injuries, affecting their perceived value.

Analyzing Dynasty Trade: AJ Brown for Jonathan Taylor 24:20

  • Evaluation of injury history may have a psychological impact, even if statistically adjusted ranks exist for certain players.
  • In a dynasty league, the dilemma of trading AJ Brown for Jonathan Taylor arises. Despite Taylor’s appeal as a top running back, Brown’s youth and value as a receiver make him a formidable dynasty asset.

Injury potential influences rankings, with few players labeled as injury-prone, and past history can affect perception and valuation.

  • The decision hinges on factors like age, contract situations, and positional scarcity in fantasy football.

AJ Brown with the new deal… Him being locked in… AJ Brown is just outside of my tier one dynasty wide receivers.”

Comparing Fantasy Potential: Kirk Cousins vs. Caleb Williams 26:41

  • When evaluating the potential fantasy performance of Kirk Cousins and Caleb Williams for 2024, the debate emerges between experienced consistency and unproven rookie dynamism.
  • Considerations include draft round selection, upside potential, and historical data on rookie quarterbacks achieving specific statistical milestones.

“If your ceiling is quarterback eight, the biggest problem is not the Cousins versus… other guys in the draft.”

Impact of Injury History on Fantasy Rankings 29:49

  • Injury history plays a significant role in fantasy rankings, influencing the perceived risk associated with certain players.
  • While few players are inherently labeled as injury-prone, past injuries can sow doubts and alter perceptions, affecting how players are valued in fantasy drafts.

“Even Keener now and had that label… It shouldn’t be in the back of your head, but you don’t know why it is.”

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Analyzing Risk Factors in Player Rankings 31:37

  • The risk rating assigned to players in fantasy rankings helps assess the level of concern associated with drafting them.

Managing Risk in Player Selection 31:37

  • Understanding a player’s risk rating is crucial while making fantasy football draft decisions to navigate potential pitfalls.
  • Injuries are a key component considered in the risk rating to identify risky picks, aiming to prevent double-counting of potential issues.
  • Injuries during training camp can impact a player’s draft position, necessitating a thoughtful approach to managing risk.
  • The team’s experience in evaluating injury-prone players helps refine the risk assessment process.

Those we have found taking the risk of the training camp hamstring injury, those can bite you.

Impact of Training Camp Injuries on Draft Strategy 32:30

  • “Look at that risk rating number because that’s where we will, you know, put that into like this.”

“This player might be here in the rankings, but he is a risky pick.”

Impact of Training Camp Injuries on Draft Strategy 32:20

  • Training camp injuries, particularly soft tissue injuries like hamstrings, can lead to a significant drop in a player’s Average Draft Position.
  • Despite the allure of snagging a potentially undervalued player, caution is advised as such risks might not always pay off.
  • Injuries sustained during training camp, especially soft tissue injuries, can significantly alter a player’s Average Draft Position (ADP) due to the uncertainty created.

I’m getting them in the eighth round now.

Analyzing Player Performance and Overcoming Frustrations 34:05

  • The allure of drafting a talented player at a reduced cost due to a training camp injury can be tempting but comes with its risks.
  • “That will create a dip in the ADP market.”
  • Frustrations can arise when a player like Jameer Gibbs shares playing time, affecting his fantasy output.

“Don’t buy the injury dips.”

Evaluating Player Performance Post Injuries 33:17

  • David Montgomery‘s touchdown prowess can lead to disappointment for Gibbs managers, emphasizing the need to manage expectations wisely.

You’re going to be pissed.

  • Reflecting on players who faced training camp injuries or were not fully ready for Week One provides insights into the risks associated with such scenarios.

Evaluating Running Back Breakout Potential 36:08

  • Jameer Gibbs, with his diverse skill set and anticipated increase in workload, holds the potential for a breakout fantasy season.
  • Monitoring the performance of these players throughout the season helps understand the effectiveness of taking chances on them.
  • “And at the end of the year, I would look and see, okay, how did, how did those fare?”
  • Comparing Gibbs to Melvin Gordon‘s collaboration with Austin Eckler highlights the dynamic playmaking ability Gibbs brings to the table.

Will Levis potential 38:27

Trusting Rookie QBs in Fantasy Football 38:27

  • Will Levis might offer significant value if things align correctly with his talented receiving options and rushing ability.
  • Will Levis is seen as a high-risk, high-reward fantasy quarterback choice due to his potential connection with top wide receivers like Calvin Ridley and Deandre Hopkins.
  • The risk-reward ratio for Will Levis seems favorable given his late draft position and potential upside.
  • Levis’ late-round ADP makes him a low-cost gamble with potential for significant payoff if he performs well.
  • The minimal risk associated with drafting Levis justifies taking a chance on him in fantasy leagues.
  • Considering his ADP of the 19th round, taking a chance on Will Levis could be a strategic move in fantasy drafts.
  • “But if it goes right, that’s going to be a payoff.”

“The risk is worth the reward because there is almost no risk.”

Evaluating Trey McBride‘s Fantasy Value 39:30

If it hits in his year too, you know, that’s that $5 parlay that makes you a grand and so it’s like, cause it costs you nothing. Will levis is on the 19th round ADP.

  • Different opinions exist on the ranking of tight end Trey McBride, with varying perceptions of his potential in the upcoming season.
  • McBride’s perceived value is influenced by factors like target share and red zone opportunities within the offense.
  • A discussion ensues about the importance of McBride within the team’s offensive strategy.
  • “From week 10 on, he was averaging nearly 10 targets a game.”

“There were two starting Titans who averaged more than two yards per route run: Travis Kelsey and Trey McBride.”

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Analyzing the Impact of Marquise Brown in Fantasy Football 42:50

Evaluating Hollywood Brown’s Fantasy Performance 45:13

  • Hollywood Brown ranks 46th out of 54 wide receivers in fantasy points per target among those who have seen 250 or more targets since 2020.

Evaluating Hollywood Brown’s Performance 45:13

  • Comparing Brown to other players on a per-target basis, he falls in the range of Allen Robinson, Michael Gallup, Chase Claypool, and Robert Woods.
  • The consensus is that his time in the NFL has not been successful based on these metrics.
  • Among 54 wide receivers with 250+ targets from 2020, Brown ranks 46th in fantasy points per target.

Hollywood Brown is compared to players like Allen Robinson, Michael Gallup, Chase Claypool, and Robert Woods, indicating his struggles in performance.

Importance of Conviction in Player Rankings 47:11

  • Brown’s efficiency places him alongside names like Alan Robinson, Michael Gallup, Chase Claypool, and Robert Woods in this aspect.
  • Having conviction about a player and not playing it safe can lead to more success in rankings.

Hollywood Brown is around Alan Robinson, Michael Gallup, Chase Claypool, Robert Woods.

  • Ranking with confidence can result in identifying breakout players like McBride as a top tight end choice.

The Importance of Conviction in Player Rankings 46:22

  • Playing to win involves making bold ranking decisions based on strong beliefs about player potential.

Ranking with conviction and taking calculated risks can lead to successful outcomes in fantasy football rankings.

  • Having conviction about a player can lead to bold rankings that may differ from conventional wisdom.

League Rule Changes: Unanimous vs. Majority Rules 48:05

  • Taking strategic risks based on strong beliefs in player performance can yield favorable outcomes in fantasy football.
  • Deciding on league rule changes can vary depending on the league structure.

I applaud taking the shot in rankings.

  • In some leagues, the commissioner has ultimate authority without needing unanimous approval for rule changes.

Personal Anecdote on Draft Choices and Rankings 47:32

  • Other leagues follow a democratic approach where major rule changes require a supermajority but not necessarily a unanimous vote.
  • Using a “golden ticket” agreement, the speaker notes a strong belief in a player with a projected 25% target share despite potential controversy.

Leagues can operate under different structures, from authoritative commissioner-led decisions to democratic supermajority votes for rule changes.

Ensuring League Stability and Governance 49:30

 

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