NFC East Breakdown + Against the Odds, Hot Stats
Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Commanders on today’s fantasy football podcast! A full breakdown of the NFC East with important offseason changes and 2024 expectations. Plus, contract news and hype out of training camp! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. — Fantasy Football Podcast for July 25th, 2024.
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Summary:
Introduction to NFC East Breakdown 00:03
- The discussion begins with a focus on the NFC East, highlighting its importance within the broader fantasy football landscape. The hosts express excitement about the many storylines emerging from this division in the lead-up to the season. Additionally, they promote the Ultimate Draft Kit available at ultimatedraftkit.com, emphasizing its value for fantasy players.
“Very excited to talk about the NFC East.”
The Nature of Training Camp News 01:02
- The hosts reflect on the influx of news coming out of training camps, particularly noting the tendency to overreact to early reports. They mention that this is a common scenario as training camps kick off and emphasize the significance of not letting preliminary news overly influence their strategies. They highlight how it’s easy to get caught up in excitement over new developments, particularly when dealing with rookie performances and team configurations.
“Every single year, we’ve been doing this.”
Current Player Discussions and Reactions 04:52
- As they explore player performances, the conversation shifts toward specific players, such as Greg Dulcich in Denver, who is gaining attention from the various camp reports. The hosts remark on how initial news can lead to hasty evaluations and decisions. Mike shares a contrast between the excitement surrounding new players versus the caution to be exercised when assessing early training camp news, outlining how some information isn’t actionable.
“I assume that Brian Thomas‘ catch rate is at 0% right now.”
Denver Broncos‘ Tight End Controversy 02:20
- The talk of the town appears to center around the Denver Broncos‘ tight ends, with a mention of Sean Payton being refreshingly candid about his players’ performances. The hosts discuss a report that claims a tight end other than Dulcich is reportedly excelling in camp, creating speculation on who will emerge as the team’s primary receiving option at the position.
“Payton has been refreshingly honest about almost everything.”
The Quarterback Situation in Minnesota 06:10
- The hosts speculate on the quarterback situation for the Minnesota Vikings, particularly surrounding Sam Darnold‘s likely status as a starter at the onset of the season. They discuss the mixed feelings fans might have, emphasizing how a positive performance from Darnold could indicate success for the entire Vikings team. However, they note that the Vikings are facing a challenging series of defenses and how this might add pressure.
“If Darnold does well, that means that the Minnesota Vikings are doing very well.”
Player Recovery Challenges 09:55
- Recovering from injuries, such as ACL tears, often proves detrimental for players like Michael Gallup, who struggled to regain form after his 2019 injury. This highlights a broader trend where expectations exceed reality regarding recovery times from serious injuries.
- It’s common for players to return “ahead of schedule” yet still not return to their pre-injury level of performance, as seen with Javonte Williams. This reality emphasizes the complexity of injury recovery in professional football.
“You can’t just bet on the data. You have to see it.”
Injury Impact and Team Management 10:51
- Kendry Miller’s recurring injuries have led to scrutiny, especially after his coach Dennis Allen stated the need for consistent health to remain relevant on the team. This sentiment resonates with the frustrations of drafting injured players who are unable to contribute early in their careers.
- The importance of remaining healthy is compounded by team dynamics, where early-round draft picks like Miller are expected to be reliable contributors, making their injuries all the more disappointing for coaching staff and fans alike.
“That’s a player who needs to figure out how to stay healthy because you can’t make the team in the training room.”
Contract Negotiations Impacting Performance 12:18
- The Dallas Cowboys are facing a pivotal period regarding contract negotiations for key players like Dak Prescott and CeeDee Lamb. There are concerns about how these contract matters may influence player performance, especially when players may feel they need to prove their worth for big contracts.
- The situation illustrates the tension between wanting to secure financial stability and balancing team cohesion, especially given the high demands for contracts that reset the market for elite players.
“You should have sat down and tried to strike early with like CeeDee Lamb.”
Player Roles and Organizational Decisions 14:24
- The ongoing uncertainty surrounding players like Alvin Kamara and the usage of other backs reflects the strategic decisions made by NFL teams. With younger players often viewed as potential threats, veterans can find their roles diminished in the wake of newer talent.
- The organizational approach towards contracts and playing time has ramifications for younger players as well, such as how Quentin Johnston is perceived given past performance narratives that may not fully depict his capabilities.
“You certainly weren’t supposed to have to step up in place of two injured players.”
Analysis of Quentin Johnston and Jameson Williams 19:32
- There has been positive buzz surrounding Quentin Johnston, originally a first-round pick rookie. However, despite this optimism, the speaker chose not to adjust his Chargers rankings based on the latest reports, as one piece of positive news is not enough to change his evaluation.
- The speaker emphasizes that consistent positive news over time is needed to influence opinions, describing the current reports as just a single “strike of the drum,” highlighting the necessity for sustained performance to validate any preseason adjustments.
- In contrast, Jameson Williams is discussed with a sense of hope for a breakout year based on recent observations from training camp. While one speaker expresses skepticism about Johnston due to a lack of collegiate support, another firmly believes Williams can elevate his game despite possible limited targets in a crowded offensive lineup.
“You need more than just one piece of positive news to alter your perception.”
Context on Dallas Cowboys Performance 24:13
- The Dallas Cowboys finished with a strong 12-5 record, achieving the largest point differential between first and second place in the NFL. They were noted for their impressive overall performance, highlighted by a significant point differential that underlined their dominance in games.
- Despite the Cowboys’ impressive record, there remained skepticism about the Philadelphia Eagles, who ended up with an 11-6 record but had a seemingly less favorable performance given their scant positive point differential. The discussion illustrates the paradox of how records can sometimes mask deeper performance issues.
- The speaker critiques the Eagles’ ability to win close games despite mediocre showings, indicating that their success was partly due to luck rather than pure skill.
“Dallas was blowing people away, while Philadelphia squeaked out wins despite looking bad.”
Overview of the NFC East and Team Dynamics 22:52
- The conversation transitions to the dynamics in the NFC East, emphasizing that the division has seen many personnel changes, including coaching and player moves. These shifts could significantly influence team strategies and performance metrics.
- The Cowboys are expected to continue their upward trend with a projected win total of 10.5 and are credited for their offensive capability, having led the league in scoring the previous year. This places them among the favorites in the division.
- Notably, the Cowboys changed their play-calling strategy post-bye week, indicating a shift towards an aerial approach which seems to have paid off. This tactical adjustment points to an understanding that maximizing star players like CeeDee Lamb can drive success.
“Imagine unleashing your offense with your number one wide receiver.”
Tony Pollard and Ezekiel Elliott‘s Effectiveness in Dallas 29:08
- The discussion begins with an analysis of Tony Pollard‘s performance in the previous season, highlighting that he was the running back for the number one scoring offense, achieving three touchdowns from 16 carries inside the five-yard line. Despite the touchdowns, there is criticism regarding Pollard’s overall effectiveness.
- The conversation shifts to Ezekiel Elliott‘s decline, suggesting that he appeared “extremely washed” last year, with only 3% of his carries gaining 15 or more yards, ranking among the worst of qualifying running backs.
- Rico Dowdle, another running back, has not seen significant action, complicating the running back situation in Dallas. There’s mention of historical trends where late-round running backs on higher-scoring offenses can sometimes outperform expectations even without a high average draft position (ADP).
“It is not a running back room that we’re looking for explosive league-winning weeks.”
Brandin Cooks and Jake Ferguson‘s Potential 31:08
- Brandon Cooks’ performance becomes the next focal point, with insights on his inconsistent game outcomes, heavily reliant on touchdown scoring to secure top 24 finishes. His average yards per game shows a lack of involvement, dropping the interest level in drafting him.
- Despite concerns, Cooks is viewed as a reasonable depth wide receiver option at his current ADP, with the potential for bigger games due to his history of scoring touchdowns.
- Jake Ferguson garners positive attention for his red zone opportunities, suggesting that he could become a valuable fantasy tight end option, especially at his typically lower draft cost.
“I think Jake Ferguson is my final ripcord at the tight end position.”
Dak Prescott‘s Fantasy Viability 34:16
- The discussion includes Dak Prescott‘s value, with analysts generally satisfied to end drafts with him, given he ranks within the top-tier quarterbacks. The stability of Prescott’s scoring over the last three years positions him well compared to his peers.
- There is a debate about whether Prescott represents a strong offensive option in light of potential struggles with the team’s schedule, with mixed views on targeting him during drafts unless partnered with CeeDee Lamb.
- The analysts reference the past season’s performance metrics for the Eagles, indicating the need for consistent scoring from the offense.
“If we left our draft with Dak, we’re happy about it.”
Assessing the Eagles’ Offensive Strategy 38:13
- The discussion centers around the Philadelphia Eagles‘ offense, specifically under Kellen Moore‘s influence. With talented players such as Jalen Hurts, DeVonta Smith, AJ Brown, and a strong offensive line, there’s an expectation for offensive success.
- A key focus is determining who will take on the slot or motion role in Kellen Moore’s system, akin to previous years’ stars like Keenan Allen and C.D. Lamb. Choices include either DeVonta Smith or AJ Brown, with differing opinions on who will claim that role.
- The Eagles utilized pre-snap motion at only 11% of plays last year, the lowest in the NFL. Teams with elite offenses typically leverage motion more effectively, as it helps to reveal defensive schemes and boosts scoring potential.
- The conversation highlights that historically strong offensive teams, such as the Dolphins and 49ers, consistently use motion to great effect, suggesting that the Eagles could benefit significantly from adopting a similar strategy.
“Teams with elite offenses use motion all the time, it’s hard to argue against.”
Expectations for Fantasy Impact 40:02
- Caution is expressed regarding the fantasy potential of Eagles players, stemming from last season’s underwhelming performance despite high expectations.
- Nevertheless, there’s considerable optimism about this season’s outlook, driven by a good offensive line and scoring opportunities. The introduction of DeAndre Swift is also seen as potentially beneficial.
- Concerns about the touchdown potential for running backs, including the impact of the ‘push-push’ tactic, are raised. However, it’s suggested that Swift can still achieve notable yardage, even if he doesn’t finish near the end zone often.
“The explosive potential of this offense should work out, given their strong offensive line.”
Evaluating Devonta Smith and Dallas Goedert 41:40
- Devonta Smith‘s performance is scrutinized, particularly with how high he was drafted last year. His expected output is seen as potentially limited, as success may rely on specific adverse team conditions to clear a path for him.
- In contrast, AJ Brown is viewed as a solid investment for this season. Discussions highlight that only one between Smith and Goedert can truly excel alongside Brown, raising questions about their individual ceilings.
- Dallas Goedert‘s standing is questioned due to injury history and the crowded pecking order, suggesting a diminished fantasy outlook moving forward.
“Devonta Smith feels like he is drafted at his ceiling where so many things have to go wrong for him to succeed in fantasy.”
New York Giants‘ Outlook and Talent Acquisition 43:49
- The New York Giants faced challenges last season, finishing with a 6-11 record. Their projected win total for this season reflects modest expectations, dropping slightly to six and a half.
- They’ve made changes to their roster with a particular emphasis on integrating Malik Neighbors, a rookie wide receiver, into their offense. Although talent is recognized, there are concerns about the efficacy of the Giants’ offense alongside Daniel Jones.
- Comparisons are drawn between Neighbors and successful players like Jalen Waddle, emphasizing that despite the team’s difficulties, an explosive talent like Neighbors could still achieve impressive statistics if given enough opportunities.
“Drafting Malik Neighbors is a risk; his talent is undeniable, but the Giants’ offensive situation is concerning.”
Daniel Jones and the Giants’ Struggles 47:26
- The discussion highlights that Daniel Jones is somewhat capped in his performance due to the current team dynamics, including the possibilities of changes at the quarterback position based on the Giants’ losses. Historical data suggests that only one rookie finished in the top 30 while being on a team in the bottom 10 for passing yards per game, which raises concerns about Jones’ prospects.
- If the team underperforms again, it may lead to a scenario where the organization needs to reassess his future as the starting quarterback. There’s a notion that having better offensive weapons could potentially elevate Jones’s performance and assessment.
- The addition of Malik Nabers is seen as a crucial element, potentially determining Jones’ viability as the franchise quarterback, as it could provide him with the necessary support to succeed.
“If Malik Nabers is great and he finishes in the top 30 at wide receiver, then they probably won’t have a bottom 10 passing offense.”
The Offensive Line Situation 49:15
- Despite the general manager’s assertions about needing to improve the offensive line, the Giants have not made significant strides, remaining near the bottom of the league. The discussion suggests that the lack of a strong offensive line has been a hindrance to Daniel Jones‘ performance and the overall team success.
- The emphasis is placed on the need for an offensive line that actually allows for the development of the quarterback and the entire offense.
“He kept talking about getting Daniel Jones a good offensive line and then he didn’t.”
Devin Singletary‘s Role in New York 49:41
- Devin Singletary is noted as being a solid addition to the Giants’ backfield, with an expectation that he will outperform his current ADP as a running back. His ability to consistently gain yards and provide a reliable option on the ground is highlighted.
- The conversation includes the potential advantages he might have given he’s not facing the same level of defensive pressure as others, which could facilitate more productive runs if the offense improves overall.
“Devin Singletary is going to get his three or four yards every single play.”
Terry McLaurin‘s Standing and Wide Receiver Dynamics 55:22
- Terry McLaurin is assessed as a capable wide receiver, but there are concerns about his ceiling and the impact of rookie quarterbacks on his production. The historical performance shows he has consistently ranked as a wide receiver two, but expectations for him to finish as a wide receiver one seem unrealistic.
- Players around him in drafts are discussed, revealing a preference for some over others, showcasing the varying opinions on his value for the upcoming season.
“The ceiling is not there for Terry McLaurin; he is a really good wide receiver who’s not elite.”
Johan Dotson and the Quarterback Situation 56:49
- Johan Dotson had a disappointing season where expectations did not materialize. He was a first-round pick and the anticipated leap to superstardom seems unlikely at this point, although he is still young at 24 years old. The arrival of a top five NFL pick at quarterback could offer a fresh start, especially since previous target Curtis Samuel is no longer on the team.
- With Samuel gone, Dotson’s position has strengthened; he is now a clear number two receiver. However, Dotson’s previous seasons were not impressive, finishing outside the top 50 fantasy wide receivers, and this upcoming season presents a significant challenge, especially with the uncertainty surrounding the new quarterback.
- The rookie quarterback, Jane Daniels, comes with his own set of challenges, including a lackluster offensive line and a new offensive scheme. Despite his impressive senior season at LSU, expectations of him taking the league by storm may be overambitious. Daniels will be relied upon heavily, and he has the dual-threat ability that could translate to fantasy relevance.
“Johan Dotson is the clear number two here, but two years outside the top 50 at the position means year three is quite against the odds.”
Running Back Dynamics: Brian Robinson and Austin Eckler 01:00:22
- Brian Robinson is expected to outperform his average draft position (ADP) significantly due to his past performance in both rushing and receiving. Although there are questions around Austin Eckler’s health and effectiveness after last season’s struggles, Robinson is projected to have a bigger role in the offense, especially in the passing game.
- The split in the backfield will depend largely on Eckler’s ability to maintain productivity, but if Robinson continues to develop, he could emerge as a late round steal. Concerns about Eckler’s durability at his current age further complicate his value.
“I believe Brian Robinson will have a valuable year for fantasy.”
Tight End Position: Zach Ertz and Potential Value 01:04:02
- Zach Ertz is viewed as a potential value pick this season despite being drafted as a low-end tight end. His past performance as a PPR asset in Arizona suggests he could still deliver solid numbers, particularly in PPR leagues. If he can manage to have early production, he could be a worthy waiver wire Addition after the first few weeks.
- Comparisons are made with Logan Thomas, indicating that both Ertz and Thomas could carve out significant fantasy roles if utilized correctly within their respective offenses.
“If Zach Ertz is on there with five receptions for 65 yards, that will not be surprising in the least.”
A Look at Strength of Schedule in the NFC East 01:06:25
- The discussion focuses on the strengths of the schedules of NFC East teams, particularly the Eagles and Cowboys. Currently, these teams possess the ninth easiest strength of schedule, which can impact their performance and fantasy football potential.
- It’s noted that if a team ranks in the middle tier of the strength of schedule (between fifth and fifteenth place), it may not be particularly relevant for making strategic decisions.
- Based on personal beliefs, the rankings for the teams are given as Dallas at number one, followed by Philly, then the Giants, and finally the Commanders at number four.
“If you’re not top five or bottom five in strength of schedule, I pretty much throw it out.”
Team Rankings and Predictions 01:06:50
- The approach taken here reflects caution, as none of the participants displayed the boldness to predict one of the weaker teams to come out on top in the standings. However, one individual humorously suggests placing the Commanders first in the ranking, indicating a lighthearted and unconventional strategy amidst serious discussions.
“Maybe I’ll go with the Commanders number one.”
Preparing for Draft Season 01:07:31
- August signals the intensification of fantasy football preparation, with the regular podcast series transitioning to five episodes a week starting August 1. This increased frequency indicates that football season is approaching, prompting listeners to get their teams ready for draft day.
- The Ultimate Draft Kit is promoted as a necessary resource for those looking to excel in their drafts, encouraging fans to utilize available tools for better results this season.
“Pick up the Ultimate Draft Kit at ultimatedraftkit.com if you want to dominate your draft.”

